if the OP has actually read armor tanking 1.5 they are makeing all armor ships/plates lighter and giving a skill to make them even lighter. quit whineing cause armor is balanced vs shield atm cause of ASBs.

If anything shield tanking needs a bit of love, but only for T1 ships to be honest. As it stands right now Armor tanking is considerably more efficient than shield tanking, especially when your in fleets with armor logi. How do we know this? Go look at the standard fittings for incursion fleets and tell me what you see. I do Active and Passive tanking for both Armor and Shield and I can tell you from personal experience, once I switched to armor tanking I almost hated flying shield tank ships because of how inefficient the shield tank really is in comparison to armor tank. Yeah sure you cant throw on a X-large shield booster and aim for cap stable and be pretty darn hard to kill but there is one thing that really sucks about shield tanking and that is the penalty to sig radius meaning everything can hit you. If you armor tank, you fit a DCU II, 1600mm RT II, and a EANP II with three medium trimark armor pump I's and a AB to make up for the speed lose be pretty well off. For shield tanking though there really is not much you can do to get that sig radius down.

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that is the definition of balance. the point where two things become equal because they function exactly the same. which imo is a horrible thing to have in a game. the See saw is difficult to use but if its perfectly level you might as well not have the other half.


Also in the pvp environment shield modules are predominantly mid slots. iirc this is where a pvp player puts all of his utility modules. Armor tanks in the lows giving armor ships free reign in the mids.

Also OP if you browsed the shield modules you would find that a couple that have to deal with passive regen have capacitor penelties

There is absolutely nothing wrong with shield tanking as it is and no reason to nerf it, especially since armor tanking is going to be getting buffed. Shields are fine where they are, I personally will not take a shield tanked vessel into a PVP environment but i use shields for PVE all the time, and I would not take an armor tanked vessel into a PVE environment as it is best used for PVP. A player who does not pursue both should do so, as it only makes your character more versatile and expands your options for fitting ships. It also make your life a whole lot easier.

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In the case of T1 vessels, Armor tank reigns king, why? well it probably has something to do with the fact that all vessels, ALL VESSELS, get better armor resists than they do shield resists to begin with. Dont believe me? go look for yourself. About the only vessels where Shield tanking is truely worth using in either PVP or PVE is in the case of the Tengu, and of course caldari ships as well, and even still i would not use a Tengu in PVP. Yeah sure you got all those nice shields and that nice shield booster but I just disrupted your tracking computer, started draining your cap, webbed you, warp disrupted you and I am moving at 300kms or more with a light armor tank and you wanna know why? because as it stand right now, any ship running a shield tank of any type is more than likely just barely cap stable in one way or another which even a small energy destabilizer can throw off and make worse than it is.

As I said before if anything shield tanking needs a bit of a buff, especially to the AI field II's resist boosts.

One may speak softly, or scream as loud as the wind can howl, but a wall is still a wall and will not agree with you on any matter.

You can show a man the world over, but if he is blind he will not see.

Well at least you have admitted to your ignorance. You do make good points about the shield tanking ships however it is very specific vessels that are capable of these shield tanking fits, armor tanking efficiency is pretty universal though until of course you get to T2 vessels in which case shield tanking begins to be more efficient thank armor tanking, however I have seen people drop shield tanking in favor of armor and still be just as successful.

The above links mean nothing, I have seen fleets off both types of tanks win fights and there for I continue to stick with my original stance in that there is nothing wrong with shield tanking.

Oh by the way, I was not being condescending, I was simply agreeing with you being condescending towards yourself.

reactive armor hardener......also armor tankers get passive omni modules so QUIT BITCHING

im gonna have to agree with lagus a lot of shield tanking ships at least active tanked ships are barely cap stable if at all and generaly the only active shield tank ships that are stable is pve ones and i mean barely stable at around 30 - 35% i.e its enough to warp of if the situation should arise.

but most are passively tank i hear you cry or use asb ? well passive tanking is a lil harder and usualy results in little pg or cpu left or not enough forcing use to sacrifice dps. as with the asb the asb has such a massive cap useage that in most situations it must run on cap boosters with btw take up a lot of room in cargo holds and take i bilieve 60 seconds to reload so it has a massive massive hole for you to exploit.